But, from your comments and others I have read today this gun is thought very highly of yet it sounds like it buzzes and rattles to beat the band. If so, I would be interested when the time is right. I did a lot of swapping around and selling things to get where I’m at with my little air gun collection. All bluing is deep and even. Things are screwy trying to move this month so haven’t had a chance to get the endcap to GF, but that 135 spring, after a little turning down, fit right in to the airmag like a glove. Dryfire you'll get many more responses to your comments if you post on the current blog, even off-topic comments are welcome! Customers come to my online store to buy RWS/Diana Air Rifles and RWS/Diana Air Pistols because of their reputation for being long lasting and powerful. The model 45 is no longer imported into the U.S., so it is considered a vintage gun. I got better groups, but not any better than I shot with my peep sight. . I just hope your reports doesn’t inflate prices! I can seriously have the inner power spring in my hand in 4 miures max including taking the action out of the stock. After a solid month they will still have 94-96 percent of their original strength. for the missing magazine? Ah, the broken dreams of youth! I can’t remember what it cost back then, but at least something like $200. I am torn between a TX200 MKlll and a RWS mod. I would like to return it in working order. Well, I actually stopped talking to them when their VP of marketing shut me down on the barrel droop issue, several years ago. The weight is 7 lbs., 14 oz. It’s difficult to sell an 850 f.p.s. The higher speed will give you a flatter trajectory at long range…so, in this case I’d go the Air King It was permanently hamstrung by a too-short piston stroke. Buldawg Other Air Guns & Slingshots; Caliber. !!! The build quality of the 45 to my mind is not matched by modern Dianas. I will let you know more tomorrow on the NP2 as I am getting the trigger springs swapped and scope mounted tonight. I am no longer a silent air gunner. We don’t have them here in the US as fat as I know. Believe me, it was never intended. Anyway, just wanted to share my thoughts on a similar situation. You have to keep in mind that the 45 is a magnum only in 1980 terms. I am anxious to get them back and get the two 2240s back up and shooting as well. With thanks to Steven for these pics. The Diana 24 has so many variations that one could have a nice collection of just 24s. BB My Ruger Mark II rimfire is accurate – but the realities of small kids and schedules means I can’t get out to the range very often. One can think of the shooter as an additional part of all this too with the body position, trigger squeeze, breath control and everything else in harmony with the gun. Dry fire The Its a 300s Match L. Is the other one you got the same? I agree. The TX is around 15 ft/lb and the Diana is about 20 ft/lb in .22 Yard sale stickers, 3/4″ round, on notebook paper, a 1/2″ washer and a Sharpie marker and your set. • Stock I’m trying to stay away from the cost and complexities of CO2 and PCP models, so I’m left looking at springers and various pneumatic models. Matt61 Those were still the days when Dianas were being made by Milbro in Scotland, so instead of calling them Dianas, all the German-made guns had to be called Original when shipped outside of Germany. see all. Well I got the PCP bug now and i got a Marauder last spring, moved the UTG scope to that. This 45 has the classic Diana rear scope base (it was meant as a base for a peep sight) that I told you about in Part 2 of the Diana 34 report two days ago.The large-headed screw at the back of this base appears to have been sheared off, and a replacement is in its place. Most people don’t bother as 12 ft/lb is perfectly good enough for the sort of pests we have, at up to 50 yards, which is pretty much the practical range for a headshot anyway. http://youtu.be/4JQXmqa2Uj0. RDNAS describes only the TX 200 as perfection. 888-262-4867 and ask for the tech department. B.B., Diana was founded by Jakob Mayer and Josef Grammelspacher, who pledged to produce the highest-quality air rifles and air pistols for distribution to serious airgunners all over the world. Diana is one of the most well known and time tested airgun brands in the world backed with well respected German engineering. Yea I am trying to keep it as low as possible to achieve the needed fps to be accurate out to 55 yards and no higher so as to keep it easy to cock as well as little of felt recoil as possible. Until the 45 got its own synthetic breech and piston seals in 1988, it was an uphill battle. I am having a great time with my PCP’s. The 45 lived on as a reskinned Diana 34 until 2004. Or are you going to put a modern tune on it with a kit and spring and seal and lube. • Gun is dry • The rest of the powerplant • […] Price: £1.95 B1174 Rearsight retaining screw - 6mm long . I’ve also lost your history of .177 velocity milemarkers. The Daisy 747 is a wonderful pistol for all the reasons that you’ve seen on the blog, and I’ve found that the match pistol shooting offers a distinctively different gratification from rifle shooting. However, the rifle I probably like even more is a Weihrauch HW35E which a friend gave me to play around with. I have seen them sell for $150-$175. Be sure to test your knowledge and take the fun Air Gun Quiz. 2. . Thanks, But I am working on converting my cheap firepower into a FT gun using a Hatsan air spring ( it uses compressed air not nitrogen. He has different parts to the conversion I think 3 pages with pictures of the take down of the gun . This made the rifle easier to hold with less wobble and reduced the recoil and vibration even more. I really enjoy shooting in my yard w/o a hassel. The results are high-quality industrially manufactured masterpieces. Founded in 1890, two men built a company that would guarantee high performance and precision. Nowadays if a springer buzzes more than a little it takes a publicity beating. Contact Pyramyd Air. Yea so far the NP2 seems to be as good if maybe a little better than the standard NPs but still way to early to tell for sure as I only got a quick ten shots without sights as I just had to shoot it before the rain started. 5) My 92FS is awesome and the laser is dead on, however I noticed the hammer has about 1/8″ of free play,(at rest) and the right side safety does also, ( both on and off). Your gun was made 1960-1970 to shoot 4.5mm round lead ball. I picked up a 1988 model 45 last year as my first spring rifle. Especially if they lack lube and dry out. They are weighed after closeng and if they fall within the tolerance, they are accepted. So, if you wonder why the HW35 is still in the catalogue, it’s because, with it’s short, quick stroke, it makes a nicer shooter when restricted for the German or Canadian markets than an HW80 or Diana 52…(though needs a light tune for UK limits)……Webley sensibly never even bothered marketing the Patriot here (the name is even an Americanism). All suggestions are welcomed, But I will have to stay with springers for now. Now I need a carbine to go with it. • Action in mainspring compressor • Trigger assembly is free • Spring bent! Man I have been away too long! When a Chinese airgun buzzes and I tune it it’s still a Chinese airgun. I started with a 30-06 Browning bolt action when I was a kid. My buddy, Mac, tested one for me several years ago when I was too weak to cock breakbarrels from an illness. Cocking is cumulative. I haven't used it in years but after stumbling upon so many websites,forums,and blogs were many are enjoying airguns maybe I'll get her back out again. Got caught up on all the new changes in friend lives and the lives of some of the ones that could not make for various reasons. It is .177. This is a powerful and effective rifle that features all the necessities of an entry-level airgun. $250 plus shipping CONUS. Just make sure to stabilize everything and have the rubber footings on the clamp. Another rifle capable of 800fps at the time was the home grown Webley Vulcan, though not to my taste (never liked the trigger blade or the firing cycle) . I have read your entire reviews on both, But still cant decide which one or what caliber is the best gun or the most accurate. The pin is no longer there to put a bearing on and instead they have a spring between the trigger link and the sear and the Remington Genisis has the same setup and I put a lighter spring in it and a longer screw to adjust it with and it has a nice trigger feel in it now. Its a ratcheting slide bar and a screwing clamp on the slide side that content be easier. We have a lot to cover today, so let’s get right to it. Remember RWS the importer of some of the Diana rifles they don’t make them. The Diana 45 seems to be a favorite with folks that own them. I knew it was a Theobin, but I did not know if they could still be adjusted. My WWII rifles have taught me that old soldiers never die. That was when I got the first Sheridan “C”. right out of the box. Why a company that caved to complaints about using plastic in the T05 trigger, which was an other wise excellent trigger, still won’t update the scope mount in a mystery. Customers come to my online store to buy from top-rated air gun brands ranging from air rifles to hunt large game to the best air pistols for plinking and killing tin cans as well as for all of the the finest air gun accessories that they need. The 45, and the FWB felt like the first rifles made specifically for us in the UK, much like the R1 and Patriot were made specifically for the US. stored uncocked.is there anything i should do before using it again?thanks! Dom. Back in 1978, the airgun world was at the beginning of a velocity revolution. I always see people share their photos from it. Mine is dated 06 87. You've posted your great comments under an old article that B.B. You know what one I’m talking about. That’s something we are going to fix, and I hope we will do it without resorting to black tar. I know it is accurate as it was in it stock coil spring form so if it shoot smoother and with less recoil I will have achieved my goal to make a cheap and accurate FT spring gun. http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=60435 . Diana. H&N Baracudas worked well in the Diana 31 as well, but they are about twice as expensive. Any help appreciated -cheers. B.B., BB Models like the 350 Magnum have eclipsed the power of the final version by so much that it simply could not keep up. The leather seal in that thing is probably still good. Shooting rats in DC and getting paid for doing it, what a deal. See above; he wants to target shoot at 50+ yards. It has not been apart more than to oil the spring through the under side of the tube. I knew you weren’t likely to get a purse snatched from you. Not Specified. I found out about the Match L model when I was trying to find out more info of why this gun didn’t have the Daisy logo like other models I heard about. I ruined one of my Dad’s old scopes. the 12ftlb guns have been perfected in a sense and there are beautiful new guns that will sell for awhile, and old standbys that have held there own, whereas the US market is trying to get something that doesn’t work yet, will take a lot of development, but will sell, and the attempts on the way are the “arms race” with thing like the rogue and a million rebrands of the “not powerful enough” springers we have. It is interesting that Diana has stuck a rear mounting designed for a peep sight all these years. If you scroll down you can see the red top and o-ring under it . Spring-Piston. This means the only thing holding that cocked main spring is the trigger sear? I didn't "rediscover" airguns until long after a firearm life. Here’s the deal When a Diana 27 buzzes and I tune it, it stops buzzing and I have a quality airgun. From the 1970s or '80s probably. I THINK the seal is leather, too, but you can never be sure in the late ’80s. I have a 45 and I’m not sure if it has the leather seal or the synthetic .Its a early 80 gun . We left the Diana 45 with the mainspring out of the gun at the end of yesterday’s report. I was 15 in 1985. The Blogs appear Monday to Friday. RDNA Hello I borrowed an AWS Diana 45 air gun from a friend. The 45 first came to market in 1978. I’m with you BD. How was those leather seals so consistent with fps in the old days? There are internal trigger/piston area designs I don’t know exactly how those go. I learned about recoil. Copyright © 1999-21 PyramydAir.com. The Diana rifle Model 45 had been selected as being considered the most suitable…" Heck I can even do it. If you do, I may be able to offer a useful tip or two. It’s hard to believe since that time how deep I’ve gotten into the lore of guns. It is true that I have not had a tremendous amount of experience with many of them, but from what I have seen and read seems to indicate that the best sproingers use steel, not gas. RDNA I will look into this. I can *just* squeeze in a 10m range, and my wife has learned that the funny “fftthhT” sound just means I’m relaxing. The model 45 was supposed to fix that. The 45 was a departure from Diana styling in a number of important ways. I guess I’ll search some more. Hopefully it will be nice Sunday and I will be able to squeeze out an hour or two for me. http://vortekproducts.com/ourstore/Seals-Tuning-Parts/Diana-Piston-Seal, http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=60435, http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/10099208.htm, Mondial Oklahoma spring-piston pistol: Part 1, Diana 75/Beeman 400 recoilless target air rifle: Part 2, Benjamin 397 Variable Pump Air Rifle: Part 2. Diana airgun manufacturing premium quality airguns for last 127 years the label DIANA stands for constantly perfected innovation and tradition in the classical construction of air rifles. I have read claims that the barrel droop on Diana rifles was intentional to allow for installation of a peep sight. Now the questions…. He’s a lawyer. in .177 and could be tuned to deliver 845-860. Had a friend who worked in the clubs across from the Navy Yard and they used to shoot them inside after closing–employees only . Paper fits nicely in a binder. This particular rifle is in very good condition. Marauder is real good out even past 70 yards. Sights is slightly larger and more powerful than the model II. I tested the cocking today on the bathroom scale and it was an average of 65+ lbs, the blaze np which only has a thin rubber shim was about 50 lbs even every time. I just bought a new Trail NP2 from PA last night as I am wanting to see if the new gas spring of crosmans is better than the plain nitro guns are and it will be here Tuesday. The mainspring can use oil regardless of the type of piston seal. I can remember the Beeman catalog touting its rifles as being superior to the RWS because of a leather seal that had to be replaced by something called a drill-arbor press (I think? The model II continued to be made (in Suhl, East Germany) after WW II and there are several versions of it from 1950- to about 1993. When I go to sell the other one you may rest assured I will point that out and add the prerequisite $200 to the price tag. Wow!…..I will be looking forward to that. Beartraps are usually a vertical oriented flat bar slotted and mated to the cocking arm where it shoes in then it runs to the trigger assembly. I’m with you on slowing the springers up when tuning. I generally like heavier pellets for longer ranges like the 18.1’s with this power level but they do not perform as well in my gun. He says on his page that a principle of an accurate rifle is that when firing the parts do not have independent angular accelerations but all work together as a whole. But sometimes we catch them on the flip side — as in now. Once I realized that airguns allow me to shoot almost anywhere, at anytime at a nominal expense I was hooked. I contacted him through the forum and he said if I ran into trouble he would walk me through it . The 45 trigger was the first modular trigger their sporting air rifles had. I went up to the neighbors on the right of me that owns part of the woods behind the house and shot today. You said the Diana 45 has no anti-beartrap device. ... Vintage RWS Diana Model 45 Air Rifle - .177 Cal - West Germany. If you haven't already discovered the secret to being accurate in shooting an airgun, like the RWS 45, is the artillery hold and determining the most accurate pellet (after trying many pellets) you need to be part of our current discussion. That was a show not to miss. This rifle may have a synthetic seal — I don’t know. After that, shooting everything else went pretty well. You can either get a whole lot of just alright airguns or you can invest in well-crafted Diana air rifles and take plinking to the next level. I must say my favorite fun gun now is my 1993 Diana 24.What a sweet little shooter! Blue Book says in 80% condition it's worth $60.00. Its very easy to take apart and change or try something to make it shoot like I want. Is this gun a small tube design with a long stroke? "The General Manager submitted to the board a Diana Model 45 air rifle which it was proposed to adopt as the future Webley air rifle, as it was felt that as air rifle design is more or less standard, we could with confidence copy an existing rifle. – plastic lids, like on a cottage cheese container, make for very clean holes! Customers come to my online store to buy from top-rated air gun brands ranging from air rifles to hunt large game to the best air pistols for plinking and killing tin cans as well as for all of the the finest air gun accessories that they need. I’ve affixed the EyePal to the inside of the glasses, and maybe this is the solution as it seems to work, although having the printed side toward my eye is slightly distracting (but okay during actual aiming). Yep just reminding you about the sighting I didn’t remember when you had in the other stock but knew you did. That will be interesting to see how the 2240 likes the Lloyd tubes. I guess three quarters of the things I’ve learned in the past year have come from this blog…. Air Rifles, Pistols, Scopes, scope rings, and many other accessories are for sale online at Indiana Airguns. Another design element was the introduction of a long-stroke piston. – glossy scotch tape over a bulls eye lights up like a Christmas tree when hit with a laser! I have an early 45, it needs to be opened up and given new life. Just be sure to use a mainspring compressor, because the Diana 45 mainspring is under a lot of tension at rest. From what I remember the leather seals are quicker. Am I to understand that you have another FWB300s you plan to sell?